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FloridaSteve
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:37 pm |
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Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:00 am Posts: 173 Location: NE Florida
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hmmwv15
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:58 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:46 pm Posts: 308 Location: georgia
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I'd like to stick with my stock exhaust, I like how quiet it is. I opened up my airbox and jetted the carb. Made a difference, and it works for me for now until I can get a REAL carb! Even in stock form this thing had more power than anything I had ever owned, took me a few rides to get used to it.  I'm just now getting to where I would like some more punch in my throttle, it's not as exciting as it was when I bought it. I'm hoping my tax refund is hefty this year, maybe I can upgrade and sell my jetted BST. As sad as I am to say this, I have never been on a two stroke moto. I've seen the enduro cross 2 strokes, that looks like it's a blast! 
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rnlcomp
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:11 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:17 pm Posts: 1036 Location: Louisiana
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I'm almost certain you could throttle wheelie with the stock exhaust provided you have the carb. 1st time I took off with the new pumper I lofted the wheel and it kinda freaked me out then I got used to it. Then I changed the front sprocket to a 14 and now it's hard to keep the wheel down. Actually throttle wheelie in 2nd at just the right rpm. 
_________________ 2011 DR650SE "True Thumper" born on 10/22/11 TM40 Pumper, 40F0, etc......
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herrmnnn
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:02 am |
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:05 pm Posts: 79 Location: Mildura VIC Australia
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rnlcomp wrote: No big bore needed, just the pumper carb modified air box high flo air filter and a q4 muffler.  When I got my DR it already had FCR-MX, twin-air filter, TK muffler, 15:45 gearing, and honestly I was a little disappointed. My XR400 wheelied much easier, my TT350 before that better still. Lighter bikes I guess. Changed the DR to 14:45 gearing and it now pulls the front up in 2nd, throttle only. Much more fun  .
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hmmwv15
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:19 am |
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Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:46 pm Posts: 308 Location: georgia
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I can already tell waiting for this years return is going to be excruciatingly painful... You guys aren't helping! 
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adlibgib
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:22 am |
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:18 pm Posts: 231 Location: W.Mich and beyond
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I need to stay away from the power mods, all they will do is get me in trouble and probably into the ER. Thirty years ago when I would loop it all I got was some road rash and a wasted rear fender.
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oldebike
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:11 pm |
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:39 pm Posts: 241 Location: Cheyenne, WY
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rnlcomp wrote: Throttle wheelies show how much power and response your bike has. You won't do one with a stock DR that's for sure and I seriously doubt anyone is going to do any stunt riding on one either.you're comparing apples and oranges. I beg to differ....... the DR is capable of almost any use one can dream of, short of being a full out race bike, including stunting. Wheelies aren't all about power and response........ it's more about weight transfer and timing. Ever see a big guy pull up a long wheelie on a mini? With all of 10 HP. That's not power that does that, but rather technique. Check out the long wheelies these guys rip.......maybe it's not a full-boat stunt show, but it'll get you a ticket anywhere in the US you get caught doing it. I know this is somewhere else on the forum, but I think it illustrates a point here........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t2IopH1AG0&feature=player_detailpageMine will pull the front end up pretty easy with a quick roll on and a weight shift.. and it's stock except for a jet kit.
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rnlcomp
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:40 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:17 pm Posts: 1036 Location: Louisiana
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oldebike wrote: Love that video. That guy nearly yanking his arms out of socket to get the wheel up is classic.  Guy I work with has a KLR, I'm going to send him the link to that video,  Thanks. 
_________________ 2011 DR650SE "True Thumper" born on 10/22/11 TM40 Pumper, 40F0, etc......
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Kommando
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:54 pm |
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Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:03 pm Posts: 97 Location: Spacecoaster FL, USA
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You don't need a big-bore, pumper carb, or a loud pipe to throttle-wheelie on a DR. Mine lofts in 1st with just throttle. 2nd requires some revs, letting off, then gassing it...stock piston, stock cam, stock pipe, stock gears. This is even with a full IMS 4.9, a tankbag, and tank panniers. My BST carb has the Procycle jet kit (slide drilled) and I run a UNI filter. If you can't throttle-wheelie a relatively-stock DR with just a Procycle jetting kit and a free-flowing filter, there is still some tweaking you could be doing. Add a flowing pipe and your DR should be THROWING the front wheel skyward in 1st. With an FMF Q on, I had to short-shift to 2nd if I wanted to accelerate with any quickness without lofting. The front wheel didn't want to stay down in 1st when accelerating until I put the stock muffler back on, and now it just tolerates a bit more throttle/rev before it comes up.
I recently changed to 16/46 sprockets and it has slightly better/smoother pull down low with a passenger, but not quite the mid and upper-range pull that it had with the FMF Q and stock gears.
I can also loft the front in 2nd by simply gassing it at mid-revs and pulling.
I don't know how to clutch wheelie.
_________________ Dualsport rider, former jarhead, Dos Equis test-drinker, Hawaiian Tropic Bikini Team Oilboy...It's a rough life, but somebody's gotta do it.
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38 DKW
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Post subject: Re: Accidental wheelies...whodunnum? Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:45 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:43 pm Posts: 165 Location: Eastern Ontario,east of Belleville,Canada
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I've always been a fairly "brisk" rider but never deliberately wheelied in traffic ; didn't want to attract "unfavorable attention" . On remote stretches , with no-one-else around , I enjoyed to play a bit . --- The worst bike for "accidental wheelies" , that I owned , was a 1977 Yamaha XT500 Enduro . In order to keep the fr.-wheel on the ground I had to lean forward (1st gear) . --- Riding up a steep slope at high speed was a real challenge . --- At that time I was about 215-220lbs. in riding-gear but really had to hang-out over the handlebars on difficult terrain . --- I loved that "putt putt" but it demanded a lot of "special care" . 
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