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 Post subject: Me and my Big Mouth!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:57 am 
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Okay, so I gobbed off about my old DR being in good condition prior to a 3,000klm tour. I mentioned on my thread that things were all set....someone placed a link in front of me about top end wear...I looked at it and gobbed off more. She'll be right I intoned. Well the last 120 klms of my tour some tappet noise started. Not far to go, shouldn't be a problem. It did get a bit louder but I was almost home. Arrived home all good and next day set the tappets to .08mm, noise was less but still definately there. Pulled the head cover off tonight to see lots of wear on the cam lobes and rocker faces.

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There is a little ball and edge proud of the edge.....
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Was given price from the local Suzuki dealer of $390 for a new cam and intake/exhaust rockers.

Me thinks I should have changed my oil at the 2,000klm mark after 4 days of 42-44c. temperatures.

Ya' get that....


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 Post subject: Re: Me and my Big Mouth!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:25 am 
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I would tend to lean to a mis-adjustment over the oil going bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Me and my Big Mouth!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:05 am 
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Yowch! Just a little wear huh? :OMG:

For that kind of money you might check into finding a spare engine... :s_dunno

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 Post subject: Re: Me and my Big Mouth!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:08 pm 
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Damn, another one! Looks like there is plenty of oil there, so it makes me wonder if the cam and rockers are not hard enough? I will be watching mine very closely, and putting in a new oil pump, just in case.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:23 pm 
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what oil did you use?


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 Post subject: Re: Me and my Big Mouth!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:47 pm 
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Really - 120km of tappety noise does that! What about the adage 'slappy valves are happy valves' ? My valves sounded more clicky after 7K mi adjustment, since I loosened the exhaust valves to within spec. Now you've got me nervous...

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 Post subject: Re: Me and my Big Mouth!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:59 pm 
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This is the zone of the highest stress for a lubricant. Oil failure. Be sure to do the best you can of flushing out your engine. Going to be some metal in there. A lot to be learned Here:
http://dr650.zenseeker.net/Lubrication.htm


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Not sure what year your bike is but I found this for you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-DR650-DR ... 484390cb77


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 Post subject: Re: Me and my Big Mouth!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:58 am 
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Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. But first I should elaborate, I didn't mean to get anyone alarmed or concerned at all. My intention of the thread was to prove it's not wise to gob-off about something sometimes, it will come back to bite you.

The bike is a 1990 DR650RS, 22nd bike off the 650 production line. I saved it from being parted out and did a resto on it. I originally stripped the motor down and discovered a broken third driven gear, re-welded kick-start return spring/pawl lever, the offending re-welded piece no doubt did the gearbox damage. There was a broken clutch spring spigot and a cracked inlet manifold. The piston/rod was fresh, the bore recently honed. The exhaust cam lobes and rocker arm were slightly worn...what you would expect from a bike with 67,0000klms on the clock. I (and others) didn't think it needed replacement yet.

Here are a couple of pics during the resto that I dug up, showing the slight wear on the exhaust cam lobe and rocker arm face. I didn't actually focus in on the wear for the pics as it was not the intention of the photos....the wear was more a colour diference than a feel change.

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All internals of the motor seemed good and it was resealed and it and the rest of the bike to the last nut and bolt, was restored. I have done about 3,500 klms since the motor went back together with all the new gear/clutch etc., parts. It's new (pre-soaked) clutch plates added and had two oil and one filter change since the resto and prior to leaving on my christmas adventure. I have only used Castrol Activ 4T 15W-50 (exceeds API SG and JASO MA2 standards)

The trip was 2,939 klms in mostly 35-44c degrees weather. All types terrain covered. Since I've been back and gone over the bike, I needed 350ml to bring the oil level to low level. This was a surprise as the motor is tight and has full compression. There is a mist of weeping at nearly all oil flow external connections. It has never "blown smoke".

I intend to strip the motor further and check the head, clutch, oil impeller and counter balance chain. See what the crank feels like before I go any further.

In retrospect, to come out of what I have just achieved with the old girl, $390 is not that very much at all. And if it needs a valve job too, I already had that ticked for the not too distant future, as 12 months on the road was fast approaching. Ironically the parts won't arrive until that very anniversary.


My apologies if anyone got their nickers in a knot..... :s_sorry

(ps....anyone know about the removal of Zinc Sulphate from oils, and it's supposed detriment to sliding surfaces?)

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 Post subject: Re: Me and my Big Mouth!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:18 am 
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Definately! The lack of zinc in todays oils is a big concern in a high performance flat tappet auto engine. Most all autos have roller cams nowdays.
Thats a very good thought. A little zinc additive with the oil change might be worth it.


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