www.DRRiders.com

A Dedicated Suzuki DR650 forum for DR650 riders to share their knowledge, experience and adventures!
It is currently Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:42 am

DRRIDERS.COM Search - powered by Google

DRRIDERS Member Location Map

Place yourself on the map here!

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: first crash
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:14 pm 
Offline
Newbie
Newbie

Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:21 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Boston
So yesterday I had my first crash (on the DR 650 that I picked up about a month ago).

It happened on some double tracks - on which I was having a helluva good time on right up to the crash. Wet leaves, lost control and was heading towards a tree and laid it down.

I was fine and the bike was fine as well (other than some bent handle bar ends which are stock).

One question I have --

The bike was on its side for about a minute and then I smelled some gas that I figured was probably from the overfill holes.

When I lifted the bike back up and went to start it, I had to push the ignition several times, until it started. The last time I held down the ignition for probably at least 5 seconds until it started. Any ideas of what caused this? Also, is there any protocol for starting a bike after it falls over?

Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: first crash
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:20 pm 
Offline
Member Servant
Member Servant
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:22 am
Posts: 9968
Location: Mackinaw City, MI, USA
When your machine was "resting" the carb was leaking fuel through the needle/main circuit into the venturi flooding the engine. Carbs with floats are not multiposition rated. :s_wink No harm, although you should check your air filter. If fuel was leaking into the airbox it will rinse the oil out of the foam. (or filter oil out of a K&N) :s_yes

_________________
- mxrob -


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: first crash
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:21 pm 
Offline
Adventure Rider
Adventure Rider
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:37 pm
Posts: 1658
Location: City of Angels
Sounds like the carb flooded.

To clean it up you could keep the throttle at WFO for a few seconds while trying to start it.

_________________
Firm believer in lower pegs.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: first crash
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:36 pm 
Offline
Adventure Rider
Adventure Rider

Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:45 pm
Posts: 963
Location: Reno, NV
Max Kool wrote:
To clean it up you could keep the throttle at WFO for a few seconds while trying to start it.
That`s what I`ve been doing, seems to work faster than cranking away with throttle closed. Now for my question... is there a way to speed up the deflooding process in a kick-start only bike? Does draining the bowl save an unfortunate rider from dozens of kicks?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: first crash
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:43 pm 
Offline
Newbie
Newbie

Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:21 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Boston
Max Kool wrote:
Sounds like the carb flooded.

To clean it up you could keep the throttle at WFO for a few seconds while trying to start it.


This is what I ended up doing after it wouldn't start initially and it worked like a charm


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: first crash
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:55 pm 
Offline
Adventure Rider
Adventure Rider
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:20 pm
Posts: 3337
Location: California
smr310 wrote:
When I lifted the bike back up and went to start it, I had to push the ignition several times, until it started. The last time I held down the ignition for probably at least 5 seconds until it started. Any ideas of what caused this? Also, is there any protocol for starting a bike after it falls over?

Thanks

As suggested .... what happened is NORMAL. Next time ... HOLD throttle wide OPEN, bike in neutral, crank till it starts (don't let engine race once it catches!) If your bike is going to be on its side for a "while" :s_laughat you should turn off fuel petcock if you do not have stock vacuum type. Less flooding, easier starting.

Kick Start is the same: pull in de-comp lever and kick twenty times with wide open throttle to air out. Not sure about draining float bowl,
not a bad idea me thinks. But when you got the magic button ... just let it spin, it will start.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: first crash
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:16 am 
Offline
SuperMoto Dude
SuperMoto Dude

Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:05 pm
Posts: 340
Location: Albany, West Oz
DR Grifter wrote:
smr310 wrote:
When I lifted the bike back up and went to start it, I had to push the ignition several times, until it started. The last time I held down the ignition for probably at least 5 seconds until it started. Any ideas of what caused this? Also, is there any protocol for starting a bike after it falls over?

Thanks

As suggested .... what happened is NORMAL. Next time ... HOLD throttle wide OPEN, bike in neutral, crank till it starts (don't let engine race once it catches!) If your bike is going to be on its side for a "while" :s_laughat you should turn off fuel petcock if you do not have stock vacuum type. Less flooding, easier starting.

Kick Start is the same: pull in de-comp lever and kick twenty times with wide open throttle to air out. Not sure about draining float bowl,
not a bad idea me thinks. But when you got the magic button ... just let it spin, it will start.

If your leg is suffering and you don't have a magic button, and you want to get it going a bit quicker, remove a spark plug, leave the key off, fuel off, wot and do as above for 20 kicks. It'll be much easier to kick with a plug removed. As mentioned above, you're trying to "dry it out" - flush all the excess fuel out of the cylinder. Replace the plug, turn key and fuel on, wot and go for it again.

_________________
Once I was a male trapped inside a female body - - then I was born!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: first crash
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:08 pm 
Offline
Adventure Rider
Adventure Rider

Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:45 pm
Posts: 963
Location: Reno, NV
Thanks. So it`s the cylinder that gets flooded out more than the carb? Sorry about the detour, 310!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: first crash
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:13 pm 
Offline
Adventure Rider
Adventure Rider
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:37 pm
Posts: 1658
Location: City of Angels
Dinsdale wrote:
[...]


If your leg is suffering and you don't have a magic button, and you want to get it going a bit quicker, remove a spark plug, leave the key off, fuel off, wot and do as above for 20 kicks. It'll be much easier to kick with a plug removed. As mentioned above, you're trying to "dry it out" - flush all the excess fuel out of the cylinder. Replace the plug, turn key and fuel on, wot and go for it again.



I have yet to see the first guy removing a spark plug on the trail just to clear a flooded bike. :wacko: Kicking it 10-20 times with the decompressor works just fine... (in most cases 5-6 kicks is already enough, at least on an XR400).

_________________
Firm believer in lower pegs.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: first crash
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:20 pm 
Offline
Adventure Rider
Adventure Rider
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:20 am
Posts: 769
Location: Central Coast NSW Australia
bdesj wrote:
Thanks. So it`s the cylinder that gets flooded out more than the carb? Sorry about the detour, 310!


Yes its in the cylinder - the combustion area.
Only seems an issue with 4strokes.

_________________
If I could buy methanol 2stroke scented air freshener, I'd buy it by the case.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  



Forum hosting by ProphpBB | Software by phpBB | Report Abuse | Privacy