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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:31 pm 
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So here's my dilemma, after about twenty minutes riding I start to get a pain between my shoulder blades..I've owned tons of bike and never experienced this before?

Currently the bike is fitted with Procycle 2 " lower peg kit , Seat Concept 2" higher seat, stock bars raised 1" .. And a Madstad adventure windshield.

I've tried sitting back further, adjusting the windshield, changing where I put my feet on the pegs..still no help.

I thought I would ask the forum before I start changing stuff like the seat or the handle bar position..

Any help would be greatly appreacated

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:38 pm 
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My quick guess is you might need higher bars. Do you find with your current riding position you are slouching forward to reach the bars? Try riding and pay particular attention to your posture and try sitting up straight with your shoulders back, kind of like the one on the right.

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I find if I get lazy and slouch forward to much, it starts bothering me between the shoulder blades.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:44 pm 
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Gobear wrote:
So here's my dilemma, after about twenty minutes riding I start to get a pain between my shoulder blades..I've owned tons of bike and never experienced this before?

Currently the bike is fitted with Procycle 2 " lower peg kit , Seat Concept 2" higher seat, stock bars raised 1" .. And a Madstad adventure windshield.

I've tried sitting back further, adjusting the windshield, changing where I put my feet on the pegs..still no help.

I thought I would ask the forum before I start changing stuff like the seat or the handle bar position..

Any help would be greatly appreacated

Cheers

Gobear


what do you do for a living?


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:44 pm 
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Impossible to guess ... you didn't even disclose your height or weight or inseam and didn't say if you have any current
back conditions that bother you all the time.

Why did you make all those changes to the DR650? Did you hate the stock DR position? Think the Japanese don't know anything
about ergonomics? (they're the best in the world at it) But the DR is set up for a smaller rider. Ideal for a rider about 5'7" or 8".
Just about the size of the Japanese project leader who signed off on the bike back in 1996 at the USA intro. (I was there!)

Big guys are gonna feel a bit cramped. But the DR is not a R1200GS BMW.

As a guess I'd say you may need to lean a bit more forward, maybe get your feet back a bit.

Try working on your body too ... stretching is amazing. Acupuncture too (covered in your Canada heath plan?)
Pre-Ride Stretching and warming up helps me ... and when I stop I often take 5 minutes (a real 5 minutes) and stretch.
On a 400 mile day this seems to help me. YMMV.
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:48 pm 
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Rocky_Mtn_DR wrote:
My quick guess is you might need higher bars. Do you find with your current riding position you are slouching forward to reach the bars? Try riding and pay particular attention to your posture and try sitting up straight with your shoulders back, kind of like the one on the right.

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I find if I get lazy and slouch forward to much, it starts bothering me between the shoulder blades.

I disagree. Sitting up straight puts ALL your weight right on your tail bone. A slight forward lean is best, in my experience. Also, bars set too high also will cause PAIN. Raise them up a bit if you are TALL ... but don't overdue it. You don't want them straight out in front of you ... but just slightly higher than stock.

Of course changing up your position always helps. You don't want ALL your weight on your wrists of course ... that's what Sport bikes do, but a bit of weight should be carried there.

What Pics above don't show is a rider with his arms UP, holding onto the bars ... and his legs bent at the knee. What vector do they both take? Trust me, reaching up for APE hangars ... or even close to that ... is dead wrong. Also, with a slight forward lean the wind helps hold you up. (I ride with NO shield). So I can totally relax at 70 mph ... leaning forward a bit.

Also, having your feet too far FORWARD will also screw you up. Keep your feet under you or even a bit rearward, not Harley barca lounger style and not sport bike tucked up under your butt. Try different things, see what works.


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 7:21 pm 
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3shot wrote:
Gobear wrote:
So here's my dilemma, after about twenty minutes riding I start to get a pain between my shoulder blades..I've owned tons of bike and never experienced this before?

Currently the bike is fitted with Procycle 2 " lower peg kit , Seat Concept 2" higher seat, stock bars raised 1" .. And a Madstad adventure windshield.

I've tried sitting back further, adjusting the windshield, changing where I put my feet on the pegs..still no help.

I thought I would ask the forum before I start changing stuff like the seat or the handle bar position..

Any help would be greatly appreacated

Cheers

Gobear


what do you do for a living?


I'm retired..and in good shape..


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 7:25 pm 
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DR Grifter wrote:
Impossible to guess ... you didn't even disclose your height or weight or inseam and didn't say if you have any current
back conditions that bother you all the time.

Why did you make all those changes to the DR650? Did you hate the stock DR position? Think the Japanese don't know anything
about ergonomics? (they're the best in the world at it) But the DR is set up for a smaller rider. Ideal for a rider about 5'7" or 8".
Just about the size of the Japanese project leader who signed off on the bike back in 1996 at the USA intro. (I was there!)

Big guys are gonna feel a bit cramped. But the DR is not a R1200GS BMW.

As a guess I'd say you may need to lean a bit more forward, maybe get your feet back a bit.

Try working on your body too ... stretching is amazing. Acupuncture too (covered in your Canada heath plan?)
Pre-Ride Stretching and warming up helps me ... and when I stop I often take 5 minutes (a real 5 minutes) and stretch.
On a 400 mile day this seems to help me. YMMV.
:old:


I'm 6'2"... 175lbs..34" inseam..I'm in good shape..no back problems

I went to the higher seat to get a more relaxed riding position..could the one rise in the bars do this to me


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 8:21 pm 
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I'm going throw my two cents in here . . .

I'm 5'11, 34" bare foot, floor to pubic bone, and I weight 147 lbs in riding gear w/o helmet. 16 years a go I injured my lower back in the L3, L4 region. Due to a recent, with in the last 2 months, re-injuring the same location I am now happy(?) to say I'm under the care of a spine specialist (she won't give me opioids - DAMN! :s_smile ). To boot, my entire spine is riddled with arthritis. I live everyday with a pain level of 2 as my normal.

At present here is what's working for me, I raised my handlebars 2" with the Powermadd riser from ProCycle, replace the stock bars with Pro Taper ATV "Raptor" bars (Chaparral Motor Sports). The stock pegs were replaced with the ProCycle lowered pegs, and I ride the stock seat. I rotated the riser and the bars to the rear and down a tad. Around town I ride very forward, lowest part of the saddle; riding quite comfortably with a deep elbow bend and good upright posture. With a longer stretch, I'll push back a bit lessening the elbow bend, and for cruising I'll push back further still with a slight bend at the elbows and opening my knees and ankles up. If I could figure out a way to push the pegs an inch or two forward, I'd be in seventh heaven.

I do not ride with a posture or kidney belt. In fact, I've found them to be the fastest way to the pain between the shoulder blades you speak of. I sit tall and upright. The angling of the riser and down turn of the bars keeps my torso weight off my lower arms, yet not feeling stretched when I find my cruising position.

As mentioned by someone else, pay attention to your riding positions in different situations and imagine how you would place the bars to make it more comfortable for you. I went so far as to put my bike on the center stand in the garage, dismount the stock bars and hold them in different positions as I sat in my various positions.

The setup I now have is working for me. If anything, it relieving a lot of my lower back discomfort (I still want narcotics!) without sacrificing my upper back.


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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 12:48 pm 
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Greetings,

The cure seems to be the removal of the one inch bar risers...

I'm now slanted more forward and its done the trick, now with my stretching routine I should be good to spend more time in the saddle and with no discomfort .

Thanks everyone for the great information / suggestions

Safe riding

Cheers

Gobear


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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 12:49 pm 
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Greetings,

The cure seems to be the removal of the one inch bar risers...

I'm now slanted more forward and its done the trick, now with my stretching routine I should be good to spend more time in the saddle and with no discomfort .

Thanks everyone for the great information / suggestions

Safe riding

Cheers

Gobear


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