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 Post subject: Essential Camp Tools:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:02 am 
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Back again with another survey type question. :biggrin: So we all have certain tools we take camping for camping purposes, what tools do you bring when bike camping? (Non-motorcycle tools). I went through my stuff last year and winnowed it down to the minimum and looked to have items as lightweight as possible.

I bring a Laplander folding saw. It fits in my tank pannier. Works very well and the blade locks out kind of like a folding knife. Lightweight.
http://www.amazon.com/Bahco-396-LAP-Lap ... B0001IX7OW

I picked up this stake hammer. Yeah you can use a boot or rock but I like this because it's super light weight and I always have it. I keep it in my duffel with my tent and sleeping gear.
http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-15066-Te ... B00DNL36FO

Multi tool of course. I like Leatherman. I think my current one is the Wingman.
http://www.amazon.com/Leatherman-Wingma ... B005DI0XM4

Moira HD Knife. It's inexpensive, light but sturdy enough to do the things I need. Plus if you lose it you won't cry. Unless you need it.
http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companio ... B00EF2RX2C

I also use a Spool Tool and bring about 100 feet of paracord.
http://www.amazon.com/ParaCord-Spool-To ... B00FNYRHPY

Been thinking of adding this Fiskars Hatchet but don't know how often I'd use it. But maybe I would if I had it as an option.
http://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-X7-Hatche ... B0002YTO7E

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:35 am 
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Apart from essentials such as a tent, sleeping bag, stove, food, water, mess kit, hygiene essentials, & clothes, I bring the following:
Tarp, 50' of Paracord, Lighter/Matches, Mora Knife, Multi Tool (carried with me daily), Folding Saw, Whistle, Flashlight, First Aid Kit, Handheld Ham Radio & Pistol

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:51 pm 
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LostInPA wrote:
Been thinking of adding this Fiskers Hatchet but don't know how often I'd use it. But maybe I would if I had it as an option.
http://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-X7-Hatche ... B0002YTO7E

I have carried an axe on several camping trips and it does come in handy if the wood I find laying around to burn is bigger than my folding saw can handle (or more than I want to handle with it anyway). Don't waste your money on that Fiskars hatchet/axe though...for about $10-15 more you have a much better tool. I have the 16in Estwing campers axe that I strap underneath my tailbag during camping trips and a couple full size axes from Council tool that I use around home. Council tool also makes several hatchets, but both companies made good quality tools. The Estwing tools are carried by my local Home Depot.

12 or 14in Sportsmans Axe:
http://www.estwing.com/ao_leather_sportsmans_axe.php

16in Campers Axe:
http://www.estwing.com/ao_campers_axe.php

If it weren't so gimicky and expensive, one of these 15in long Axe/Hammer/Bottle Opener tools would be pretty cool.
http://counciltool.com/shop/apocalaxe/apocalaxe-2-multipurpose-tool-sheath/

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:59 pm 
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LostInPA wrote:
Been thinking of adding this Fiskers Hatchet but don't know how often I'd use it. But maybe I would if I had it as an option.
http://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-X7-Hatche ... B0002YTO7E

I have carried an axe on several camping trips and it does come in handy if the wood I find laying around to burn is bigger than my folding saw can handle (or more than I want to handle with it anyway). Don't waste your money on that Fiskars hatchet/axe though...for about $10-15 more you have a much better tool. I have the 16in Estwing campers axe that I strap underneath my tailbag during camping trips and a couple full size axes from Council tool that I use around home. Council tool also makes several hatchets, but both companies made good quality tools. The Estwing tools are carried by my local Home Depot.

12 or 14in Sportsmans Axe:
http://www.estwing.com/ao_leather_sportsmans_axe.php

16in Campers Axe:
http://www.estwing.com/ao_campers_axe.php

If it weren't so gimicky and expensive, one of these 15in long Axe/Hammer/Bottle Opener tools would be pretty cool.
http://counciltool.com/shop/apocalaxe/apocalaxe-2-multipurpose-tool-sheath/


+1 as far as Fiskars axes. They are just drop forged stainless with poor hardening.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:39 pm 
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Huh, I thought my Fiskers X5 was a pretty nifty tool. Splits kindling, pounds tent stakes and weights very little. Weight is important because I drop my loaded bike a lot. :whistling:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:47 pm 
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From what I can tell, not every axe is affected by the poor hardening. But, the fact that it is inconsistent, is enough for me to spend a few dollars more.

Better to find something with 4140 or 5160 steel that has been properly hardened. The hardening is the key.
A lot of times, the grinding process used to roughly shape the edge will undo the hardening.

It is possible to hand file the softer material away, but it's only worth it, IMHO, if you are willing to sacrifice the time instead of the money.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:46 pm 
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I just ordered a couple Doan magnesium blocks to keep in my camping kit for emergency/wet fire starting. I typically pack matches and have alcohol for my stove to start fires, but this seemed like a good addition. Like all tools and camping gear, I need to try it at home first...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111953114086

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:49 pm 
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I agree with multiple fire starting methods and trying things at home.

This is going to sound silly, but I've had magnesium rods (absolutely yes for damp conditions), frensel lenses, magnifying glasses, storm matches, flint and steel, whatever looked cool to try. Me and my sons even played with fire bows and starting fires caveman style wth a stick. A lot of fun and immense satisfaction for the kids when we got it to work. The best fire sparker I've ever used is, I kid you not, the Bear Grylls one. It puts out a serious amount of spark.

But, what I found works best in a non-Apocalypse scenario 90% of the time is to keep a 3 pack of Bic lighters in my kit as primary fire starter method. :rofl: I know, I know, boring, but they work. I've put them through the washer and dryer by accident. Still worked. Did the same with a couple USB sticks and they still worked too. With magnesium scrapings and a Bic, you're good to go. :biggrin: :2_thumbsup: Also surplus Trioxane bar from the Army Navy store starts up a mean fire in crap conditions.

I used to spend a lot of time as a kid dicking around making snares and dead fall triggers, etc. Great skills to know for sure.

Then someone gave me a cool tip. Buy these and tie em down with some steel wire. Will kill anything up to and including rabbit and squirrel sized critters. Easy setup and tear down. I was like, "Hmm, I could'a had a V8". :rofl: These are actually made right up the way from my town. Good ole rat trap. One of the best small game traps and available at any hardware and most groceries. For survival purposes only of course. Don't think the game commission would like these much.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:44 pm 
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Here in the States as part of the new health laws we're mandated to use this. It's a man's life in 'Merica.

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